His best shot would be with the reality stone, but I felt the reality he projected were more of an illusion than actual reality-wraping (otherwise he could re-shape the whole universe with just that one stone instead of having to collect all six), while illusions would work on almost everyone on avengers, being a master of mystic art, Strange MIGHT be able to see through it, especially if he had prep/forseen it. Seeing as the Book of Vishanti had the ability to grant the reader anything they need to accomplish their goals, the Illuminati probably didn't have to endure five years of hardship before going back in time to get old versions of the Stones the way the Avengers did. It also could be that Strange was only able to access successful futures feasible in his universe. First using the six Stones to decimate half of the universe and then themselves, he indicated that he was willing to eliminate all life everywhere in Endgame before the Avengers took him down, turning him and his army to dust. 8 Doctor Doom. As seen following the iconic snap, the Gauntlet was damaged, possibly beyond repair, and having removed Etri's hands following the Gauntlet's construction, it's unlikely that a replacement can be forged. Sam Stone is a 10th level pop culture guru living just outside of Washington, DC who knows an unreasonable amount about The Beatles. If this is the case,many are left wondering why Strange didn't intervene. The Sorcerer Supreme infamously never usedthe powers of the Time Stone in the fight against Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War, and though he and his fellow Avengers eventually won the day, he paid dearly for his hesitation. Before Thanos arrives, the group begins formulating a plan to defeat him. Throughout the courses, he has worked on a number of short films and documentaries. So, if the non-time stones are independent of time, then they could theoretically be able to act outside of normal time and perhaps their combined power lacking time could give their user their independence from time. Physically, absolutely not. Power wise, so long as Thanos doesnt have the Infinity Gauntlet / any Infinity Stones, yes. What i'm curious about is why strange didnt use the time stone from the past to restore his own so that future threats like dormmamu wont be a problem. Existence of the TVA absolutely ruins this scene for me because it doesn't matter how many outcomes they lose, the TVA were always waiting in the wings to step in and prune the timeline should they fail. And a time loop isn't quite an immovable object. That attempt failed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of them showing the Avengers victorious. Rights, lets do that. In this flashback moment, the MCU's Illuminati defeated the iconic Marvel villainon his homeworldTitan,as the shot showed the villainwith his double-bladed sword piercing his chest. Well if other people can show my view of the film is flawed I'll agree but it seemed like hes only able to continuous time loop and return from the dead in the dark dimension because there is no time there only the power of time that he brought with him. I hardly doubt they will beat or undo his actions simply by physical force. What if Dr Strange kept looping time with Thanos?Just keep bargaining with Thanos until he gives up like with Dormamu.That would be quite the sight. Screen Rant's Managing Editor, Alex Leadbeater has been covering film online since 2012 and been a permanent fixture of SR since 2016. On-screen stone feats only. In Infinity War, Thanos' primary goal on Titan is to get the Time Stone from Strange; bringing it out of wherever he'd hidden it to create a loop riskedexposing it to attack. Despite Strange memorably saying "There was no other way" before disappearing in a haze of dust, he was quite wrong; there was indeed another way. In Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame, Strange made it clear that there was only one way to defeat Thanos among more than 14 million options that he looked into. Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain thanks to giving Thanos the Time Stone and allowing him to kill countless (in the name of eventually restoring them all). He's covered a wide range of movies and TV shows - from digging out obscure MCU Easter eggs to diving deep into deeper meanings of arthouse fare - and has covered a litany of set visits, junkets and film festivals. If yes, how would he overcome the time loop/time freeze? The team utilized the Book of Vishanti to come out of this battle on top as Professor X, Captain Carter, Maria Rambeau, Black Bolt, Mr. She's important too. However the real reason they lost is also the main moral question of the story. And of course, Doctor Strange is not entirely helpless even without the time stone, and capable of putting up a decent fight with his verstility to protect the stone, so it might not be so easy for Thanos to "just take it" and end the loop himself even if he could perform the undo spell. A victory for YOU means defeating Thanos. Sam Raimi's Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness reveals the way another reality defeated Thanos, and the massive cost it incurred. A victory for Strange is probabaly something akin to: Defeating Thanos, while also having a way to save countless others, while also not opening the door to allow other powerful beings to come in and get the stones. So Strange would use the time stone > see himself get snapped away > Then what? Now, the iconic villain returns in a new way during Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, showing how Avengers: Endgame could have gone a different way with the Grimace look-alike. It took him 14 million possibilities to one that they succeeded in. Dormammu was ignorant of the stones and how they worked and how to use them. It's a pretty solid supposition that this journey may provide the Avengers with a means to travel back in time without the use of the Time Stone. While Strange could control time with the Time stone, Thanos could control reality with the reality stone. Doctor Doom is perhaps Marvels most significant villain, so unlike the Beyonder, his future in the MCU is practically guaranteed. Ever since the release of Avengers: Infinity War last year, fans have pondered what, exactly, Doctor Strange's long term plans are after willingly surrendering the Time Stone to Thanos after the battle on Titan. I think he at least try it in 1/14000605 alternate futures. Related: Doctor Strange's Role In Avengers: Endgame. Much like Thanos was likely too powerful, quick and or intelligent to let his hand be cut off, Thanos likely could have broken out of the spell. A place to discuss Plotholes, Continuity errors or even unexplained events for Movies, Books, Games, or anything else you can think of, Press J to jump to the feed. But with the halving of the population, the emergence was delayed for another five years. While Strange could control time with the Marvel admits Doctor Strange had another way to take care of Thanos through time manipulationbut Thanos would suffer a horrific fate. Especially within his favourite franchises, such as Star Wars. Thanos has stones here. The Illuminati Is All but Confirmed for 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness', Marvel's New Trailer for 'Doctor Strange 2' Has Fans Wondering if Wanda is the Villain, 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness' Will Be the Scariest MCU Movie Yet. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Why didn't he repeat the trick on Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War? If heknew about this event, then hemay have taken it into account when giving Thanos the Time Stone. He currently lives in the United States and writes about Marvel, DC, Star Wars and other properties. lol. Dr. Strange saw millions of possible futures and only saw one that ended in victory and that was the one that happened in Endgame. He brutally grabs Thanos' throat and forces him to experience his entire life asthe Conquererliterally ages the Mad Titan to death. In Stephen Strange's MCU debut, he beat Dark New Rumor Reveals Ben Affleck's Batman Involvement In James Gunn's DCU, Warner Bros. Unveils New Superman Movie Collection Amid DC Reboot, Robert Pattinsons The Batman 2 Gains Unsurprising Cast Member, Michael B. Jordan Shares Blunt Response to Black Superman Casting Rumors, Loki Season 2 Gets Release Date Update (Report), The Flash Movie Synopsis References Henry Cavill's Superman. In the world of chess, an "endgame" strategy refers to the tactic of promoting a pawn into a more powerful piece and turn the tide of the game. Given that number, it's likely he saw many large events that go beyond just the Snap. RELATED: Doctor Strange Is Undoubtedly the MCUs Best Babysitter. If even a small mistake or deviation from the plan was made he would rewind time and try again. Every other outcome on Titan is merely delaying eventual defeat since it is inevitable someone much worse than Thanos will one day wield one or more of the stones," the Redditor concluded. Or thanos would have been defeated but then our heroes would have died in the process to do it and thus earth is once again defenesless. Thanos can basically use the stones to make a bubble of independent reality around his body, meaning he can still act outside of time. Would he be froze still or can he still perform? While on Titan, Doctor Strange and the rest of the gang battle against Thanos (Josh Brolin), ultimately failing to defeat the Mad Titan. Honestly, we aren't even surprised because Doctor Strange has and always will be an absolute mastermind. and Strange responds "If I tell you, it won't happen" (I'm paraphrasing here, these might not be their exact quotes), but we can infer that means that Strange thinks he's still on track with his vision (If we were already off track he could just say "No this different already but it doesn't mean its impossible to win" or something like that). Thats the way he got Peter to pop out of different portals while fighting Thanos as well as Mantis dropping down on his head. When Strange was looking into the future, did he see the 5 year gap or was it like a blank void to him, and then being re-awakened again when the Hulk snaps everyone back? And what of the titular "endgame" itself? With taking courses involving film, Ben has extensive knowledge of movies both new and old, and keeps up to date on all the latest goings-on in the film industry. or does he go into a "void" so to speak only to re-emerge later when the hulk snaps everyone back? I also wonder why Doctor Strange didn't just use the time stone to defeat Thanos. Are you willing to sacrifice others in order bring about the greater good. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Is this the one?" It's true that Doctor Strange looked into more than 14,000,605 different futures "to see all possibly outcomes of the coming conflict" but evidently there were still some futures he did not see. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. What if Thanos takes the stone during one of the loops? And while he used all manner of magical spells on the Mad Titan, he seemingly never considered trying the same Dormammu time loop trick again. Doctor Strange didn't trap Thanos in a loop using the Time Stone in Avengers: Infinity War, but why? One could interpret the other stones as independent of time. In a random encounter, the answer is obvious. Doctor Strange would utterly wreck Thanos with his powers. Doctor Strange at regular levels can even International political treaties are the reason why nuclear weapons are basically just expensive line items on a budget, not an actual tool of war now. Strange saw millions of possible futures and only saw one that ended in victory and that was the one Isn't it simply explained that it needed to be the precise individuals who needed to survive (and come back with Hulk's snap)? Strange to truly conjure up what he would consider to be a victory from the situation.". If disintrigate the very stone itself could not stop its effect, I am not sure if someone else can just take it and make it stop without the caster's consent. And found that his passion lays in scriptwriting, where he can combine his love of movies, writing, and storytelling. Regardless of the reasoning, seeing this newexperience against Thanos adds a whole new perspective to how the MCU progresses over the past 14 years and what could still be lurking over the horizon. But how would he have failed? Directed by Joe and Anthony Russo, Avengers: Endgame stars Robert Downey Jr., Josh Brolin, Mark Ruffalo, Tom Hiddleston, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Jeremy Renner, Chris Pratt, Elizabeth Olsen, Chadwick Boseman, Sebastian Stan, Benedict Cumberbatch, Paul Bettany, Samuel L. Jackson, Cobie Smulders, Benedict Wong, Zoe Saldana, Karen Gillan, Vin Diesel, Dave Bautista, Pom Klementieff, Scarlett Johansson, Tom Holland and Anthony Mackie. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Free creative use of the stones' implied abilities UNRESTRICTED by what was shown on-screen (within reason/logics). You'll catch on eventually you practically answered why Strange could use that in the dark dimension and not on earth for example. In the end, Doctor Strange pulls off a massive win for the Avengers and humanity because he chooses the one future scenario where the Infinity Stones are not only gone, but Thanos is also out of the picture. I don't think Strange can traverse universe that easily, or that he could do it at all. Doctor Strange's Role In Avengers: Endgame, snap greatly damaged Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet, Time Travel In The MCU & Avengers: Endgame Explained, Chris Pratt Joins Luigi Actor To Troll Super Mario Bros. Movie Voice Critics, MCU Vibranium Theory Answers Major Origin Questions. Wait was there a time stone in the drawer with the infinity stones? Let's be real here: Dr. Strange affected freaking Dormammu with his atomic manipulation , if Dormammu had hard time against it, then Thanos has no All rights reserved. @kell_saloks: I don't think Strange can use another spell while doing time-stop. The necessary team-up between Tony Stark and Scott Lang to adapt PymTech also explains why Strange was willing to save Iron Man's life despite his earlier vow not to do so. Round 1: Doctor Strange with time stone ( no prep) vs 4-stone Thanos, 20 feet apart, can both activate at the very moment the battle starts. WebSo, if Doctor Strange had simply used the time stone to stop or slow time, there's no way Thanos would have time to react to that stimulus, formulate a response, and have his Strange was after destroying the stones. Related: The MCU's Next Big Villain Just Handed Thanos His Most Shocking Defeat. But it's clear that while other options might have been available in certain circumstances, Strange responded the best he could to the threat of Thanos in the MCU timeline. He did this for who knows how long until everything worked out exactly how he planned. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. So, even if the reality stone or space stone could be used in ways to counteract the time stone, Thanos himself would need adequate time for his body to actually respond to the stimulus, which he wouldn't be able to do with time stopped/slowed significantly. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is now playing in theaters worldwide. This bit brings up an interesting detail. 13 Captain America Cap was able to hold back a nearly unstoppable Thanos with just his bare hands, an impressive physical feat. RELATED: How Marvel's Eternals Hid in Plain Sight for Thousands of Years. Marvel made it clear then that whosoever wields the Stones will always have the advantage as Warlock was able to Strange himself used the time stone to trap Dormammu and his dimension in a time loop. It takes the power of all three stones to create the laws of physics as we know them, independently they lack the qualities of the other. During the intense and heartbreaking final act of Infinity War, Doctor Strange arrives on Titan with Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.) and Spider-Man (Tom Holland). In the prime MCU, Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos after the Mad Titan stabbed Tony Stark, only leaving the villain one Infinity Stone short of completing the set as he left Strange, Stark, Spider-Man, and four of the Guardians of the Galaxy on Titan. WebDoctor Strange did indeed use the Time Stone to beat Thanos. Strange also doesn't like stark, possible he chose the first one stark dies lol. Strange's ultimate decision resulted in the deaths of Iron Man, Black Widow and the Vision -- resulting in the Scarlet Witch's fury with Doctor Strange. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ben has taken a 'Film Production & Cinematography' university course, and recently completed a 'Scriptwriting' masters course, both completed at Bournemouth University. @user189728 Considering Dr. It's this method that a classic Avengers villain uses in Avengers: Mech Strike #4 - and though he has no need fortheTime Stone itself, Doctor Strange can certainly emulate his technique, however heinous it may be. There is always a chance but by himself he would not have much of one with out doing something dramatic like when he fought the Hulk He used the po to Dream Walk, giving him the chance to venture across the multiverse and puppet his variants. Does Thor aim for the head? And also, it's unknown how far into the future Strange peered, as the Emergence was ready around one year after the events of Endgame, meaning he would've had to have looked pretty far into each future. If even one person is standing a few feet away from where they need to be they could be killed, injured, or too slow to help out another. Bureaucracy being mightier than any super weapon is a a peery funny trope, but also true IRL. Round 2: Doctor Strange with time stone (with prep) vs 4-stone Thanos, 20 feet apart, time loop already activated. ADVERTISEMENT Based on feats and logic Strange wins all rounds via time stop. Strange has to ensure the BEST possible outcome that includes killing thanos with as little casualities. However based on onscreen feats, I'm not sure either of them could counter the effect of time Stone. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews, Eternals Theory: Doctor Strange Gave Up the Time Stone to Delay the Emergence, Doctor Strange 2 Already Proved the Most Powerful Avenger's Worst Loss Made Him Stronger, How Marvel's Eternals Hid in Plain Sight for Thousands of Years, Eternals' Best Twist Was Making Its Superman the Secret Villain, A Lord of the Rings Theory Hints Tom Bombadil Was in the Movies All Along, 10 Actors Who Have What It Takes To Play Superman In The New DCU, The Flash Still Shows Best Look Yet at Supergirl's Costume. This is why I found this whole battle scenario quite interesting to think about. The stones would've just kept being a thing otherwise. The Quantum Realm has repeatedly been referred to as playing an important role in Endgame, and no surviving character knows the microscopic dimension better than Scott Lang. Stopping someone like Thanos would always take sacrifice, and the ultimate cost of Endgame at least wasn't an entire reality. He can't control anything about time, just is independent of it. It has always been evident that Doctor Strange is playing a long game at the end of Infinity War, despite its cataclysmicshort term consequences. This would've prevented the other Eternals from finding out their true purpose and rebelling. Just two years later, Doctor Strange found himself fighting another near unstoppable force who threatened mass destruction: Thanos. And he also didn't have his sling ring or else they could've regrouped on earth after they landed on titan. Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain Thanos and the Avengers' interests align in Avengers: Mech Strike #4by Jed Mackay and Carlos Magno. If you didnt know, then Doctor Strange at his absolute best had fought someone who was wielding all the Infinity Stones, and thats Adam Warlock. 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