The fact that she was driving five miles per hour to the hospital says it all as a mother myself, I dont care how hurt or mentally damaged I was, I would drive that car 100 MPH to get my children to safety. You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. Actor Robert Blake was found not guilty of the shooting murder of his wife. I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. She said no mother would stop at 10 at night, in the dark, with three young children, to help a Bush haired stranger. While not evidence of guilt or innocence, it is certainly worth noting as part of the overall wrongs perpetrated during this fiasco of a trial and subsequent appeals. Dianewas jealous ofthe other woman, but Robert Knickerbockers wife said that she foundher rather friendly during their encounter. According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. But the Parole Board refused to hear her. In the nurses notes, she is described as in shock and unable to grasp the situation. Mrs. Fredericksons concern for her daughters emotional state was well placed. According to your own experience Lori, dont they try to give grandparents custody or at least access in cases comparable to this one? Diane and her family fought for them but were blocked from day one. The point is our trials need to be conducted fairly and based on evidence. There were days she was unhappy to see the staff and her family because she was very ill. That poor girl had a lot of bad moments where she would cry constantly or trigger the machines and to have defined this single incident as one of terror instead of excitement over seeing her mom was biased and self-serving. BUT like you rightly explain, there was no real evidence of her guilt. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. We talked about Steve's love of Marvel films and we joked about the staff knowing we were on a blind date because the waitress had . I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. In an earlier comment you stated that Diane had met all of the requirements for parole. It would not benefit you, my children, or society for me to perpetuate that lie. It was known as Manic Depression. Brewer freely declared that Diane Downs would never have been convicted except that he believed the lie Jim Jagger permitted Fred Hugi to enter into the record. Inflammatory and speculative I watched the highlights of her hearing. Halo Infinite. This is not the reason she is still locked up. Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book Small Sacrifices and her theory of the crime, but in reality, the case of Diane Downs was no small sacrifice. Basically then at that None of this is EVIDENCE of anything in regard to the murder trial, and not once did I read that it was. (witness statement the gentleman who was behind her for at least 10 minutes). The kids were shorted-changed. Im sorry but your article is tosh. It was obvious to the cops and the prosecution because they proceeded to get her daughter to testify against her because they had nothing to prove she was the shooter. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. The way Christie was coached did not correspond to the reality of the direct evidence. He was very irresponsible and probably could not handle them financially and emotionally. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? Further: Wonder about Justice in Nation with world wide highest prisoner rate. http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n364/a03.html // Prison-happy U.S. must reconsider use of mercy; Carol S. Steiker, professor at Harvard Law School, Sep. 10, 2008 , http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080910_Prison-happy_U_S__must_reconsider_use_of_mercy.html // US Prison Population Soars to 2.3Mln People at Annual Cost of $7Bln The US prison population has soared to 2.3 million people costing the government more than $7 billion per year. Diane had siblings and parents. As she walked away, Detective Welch called after her, If you dont testify against Steve, youre going to lose everything. Diane turned back to say, Show me proof, and walked away. Do you remember it would have been around say November 19th of 82 that you would have left Charlene at one time? Are you still taking comments by email? That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. In fact, with her continuing to deny committing the crime or expressing remorse, she may never get out. But you sure did comment like a true asshole, huh? CK allowed DD to drive away despite the fact she could identify him and he had a gun? One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. It is not a run of the mill case. but I think there are some extreme cases that knock women in a bad psychotic way that can be life threatening. I do not know what happened on Old Mohawk Road on that dark evening, but I know that they did not have enough evidence totry andconvict Diane Downs. Teams of people and detectives combed the area for months looking for the gun but it was nowhere to be found. Everyone deserves peace. I would like to believe this is the truth. Not in this case. At what point during these meetings did she start calling him Dad? But you are right to say that it is my site. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. When she resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. Brewer changed his mind. The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. Q. The details about the gun missing, the daughters testimony and the fact that she had no blood or gun residues are facts. Anything less is a conflict of interest. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. Christie was only eight, had suffered gunshot wounds and was in shock. As you might know, Dianes father passed away after many years of anguish over the fate of his daughter. No worries. 3) You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. What this is evidence of is one more piece of the overwhelming amount of bias that was involved from the start of the case. And thats fair enough. Diane was right-handed. Go to the hate groups for that. But you dont mention that she again has changed her story. Growing up, Diane had felt like an outsider and kids had been cruel towards her because of her real or imagined ugly duckling looks and demeanor. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. That single fact collaborated by a witness, convicts her for me. We, who watched her parole hearing a few years ago prayed HARD that she wouldnt be set free, know she is guilty. The roller coaster ride had nothing to do with Diane s children and Diane knew it. This is a scenario pretty hard to believe, but as they say, reality can sometimes be stranger than fiction. She has come a long way. They said she was going slow but the time at which she arrived seems to indicate otherwise. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. Diane has not been deemed an ongoing public threat that I am aware of. I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. They went after Diane at trial for tapping her foot when they played Hungry like the wolf. I think it posible she brought the kids there to be shot by someone else. Thanks again. She was fighting back and they did not like it. When I hear some people say that they would have liked to smack that smirk off Dianes face when she interacted with the cops or the media, I sayreadthis to understand accounts of people laughing at the wrong time and how it is related to their personality disorder. But the high profile nature of the case might hinder the process. Some would say that Diane Downs was condemned because of her lies and inconsistencies, but I think that it was mostly because of her disturbing demeanor and brash personality. USA population seems to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. It simply states the facts of the case. I try to remain objective in spite of the media storm depicting the case in a certain way, which is not accurate in every aspect. It was half baked escape plans that were more in her head than anything and that the media enjoyed blowing out of proportions. But due to a law enacted in Oregon after she first became eligible for parole, she can now only apply every 10 years. Forensics or lack thereof and blood splatter? Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. During the process of the termination (which can take the whole 2 years in question, with appeals) the court is mandated to find family to take the children. Shes where she belongs. In the end, it is scary how media becomes some kind of Roman circus where people is thrown in order to become a source of business. I then question how she would not have blood splatter if she shot them inside the car at close range. ), years in solitary confinment Whats wrong with us?! Lets not take that lightly. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced: Why is it not admissible? The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. And Hugi seemed pretty sure he would get what he was asking for. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. I still dont buy her story. I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. I couldnt get my hands on the book nor find anything in librariesso basically it was many years later I dove into knowing more about this case, that kinda haunted me. Yes, shes as guilty as Simpson. The State produced a witness (Ms. Patterson) to testify that Diane Downs entered the hospital bathroom, left the door open, and ran water in the sink (Appendix 87, page 476). On May 30, 1983, the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital Chaplain told Dianes father to hire an attorney because the State was going to take his grandchildren away. As was his habit, Knick failed to take into consideration what Diane or his wife had to say on the matter. It does seem time has done worse to her. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? Or be mentally ill. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. More often than not, Christie was interviewed by State Agents (Paula Krogdahl, Paul Alton, Steve Downs and Dick Tracy) within half an hour of having her Dilantin increased. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. Speculative. Judges are subject to certain ethical standards and have a duty to be impartial. As her brother mentioned, it would not be that farfetched for his sister to stop for someone considering that she was a person who lacked impulse control and the era. Right?? Imagine the ones there for years. She has been denied parole 2x and is up again in 2020. It is my hope that Leslie Van Houten and Diane Downs are never paroled. Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. Not that Dianes mental health was not a factor in her letter, but it was definitely taken out of context in some instances. I bet the records are and always have been sealed regarding this aspect of the case. I will not remove anything. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin. He gave temporary custody to Dr. Wilhite. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. She was found guilty. He strung her along, played with both womens emotions, and after saying he would join her in Oregon, reneged and stayed with his wife. He still shouldnt have been allowed to adopt them while the appeals process was ongoing, if he had any role in those cases. They were treated very badly in this matter. I point out some obvious facts and discrepancies, and that due process was shoved aside because the state and the media presented a guilty image right from the start. she flat out says, they are saying Duran Duran made her shoot her kids!..Im like HUHOkay now this is my favorite groupstill is at 44yrs old.I had to investigate this. In what world is that O.K. You are right. Yes, I had to go and sign the lease, yes, sir. Her family members were quite capable of taking care of the children. Mission accomplished. Mind: Wrongful convicted. A reader told me that I should have a website with all the comments. Diane was just 18 years old but determined to get married. It was the story of two troubled young souls trying to survive without a safety net. I know several foster parents and social workers. One of the important pieces of evidence was the absence of all but a trace of gunshot residue. They are still part of their birth family. I had never heard of this case before I read her book (Im not from or do not live in the USA), but I found myself constantly despairing at the authors unfounded judgements and wild suppositions. What is known for a fact, is, Prosecutor Fred Hugi took physical custody of Christie and Danny shortly after Christies confessions to her school mates, and he officially adopted them in the summer of 1986. After the trial that convicted Diane Downs, Fred Hugi, the Prosecutor adopted Christie and Danny (they were in foster care for 2 years before he decided to adopt them), the two surviving children. Usually it isnt there but every once in awhile, it comes out. WTF? This was very stressful. Some cases are so one sided that you feel like exposing or at least, discussing the other side. Lack of impulse control is also another symptom that might explain why a mother would stop at night to help a stranger flagging her on the road. May be the guy who says he did it. Nuts maybe, but not threatening. The blog I read is all about the improprieties and flat out misconduct in Dianes trial (and the way Ann Rule profited off of it with fiction). I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. After asking her to have an affair, he kept vacillating between his wife and her. , The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie, Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), The Diane Downs Case Was no Small Sacrifice. The problem was, Diane has a long-documented history of adversely reacting to tranquilizing drugs. Almost from day one, Diane was perceived as a cancer they had to remove. So if we started judging people harshly for their flaws, it would never end. I think you may be right that she is likely still locked up due to her diagnoses of antisocial, histrionic and narcissistic, but again, no one would care and this crappy diagnosis wouldnt have been bought and paid for if not the high profile nature of the case. Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that they only had a few months to get Christie to talk, otherwise they could not keep her away from her mother any longer. Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. If the police department had done their job properly, I would not have written this blog, no matter the outcome. Brewer freely declared that Diane Downs would never have been convicted except that he believed the lie Jim Jagger permitted Fred Hugi to enter into the record. In Oregon, in 1983, she shot her 3 children, 1 daughter died. 2.Diane herself has stated that the shooter was outside the car and shot THROUGH the window, no blood spatter. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. .well yay for youtubelol..is when I first heard her in old interviews. Right away, the police asked her to go back to the crime scene even thoughshe did not want to leave her children behind. Do you REALLY believe she expected them to live especially since she drove at less than 10 mph. I especially loved reading everyones comments. I dont understand how the family court managed to isolate 2 severely traumatized and grievously injured children from their entire family. I dont know how familiar she was with the area, but I do not think that it matters anyway. Diane nowhad the title ofdangerous offender. How do you expect the daughter to have any fair understanding of the situation or any decent contact with Dianes family when the people who have been calling her mother a murderer and a monster are dragging her in the media spotlight in the hope of writing another book or getting a new scoop, but all one sided. I have watched her parole hearing. No. What about the judge stopping a defendant from getting a new attorney? All of it is explained in the blog you didnt bother reading. And these men in black perceived this as an act of war, and proceeded to go after them with every legal or illegal means at their disposal. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. It was all about Charlene wanting KnickKnick ~wanting Dianeand Diane wanting a return to the peace she had before Knick asked his wife for a divorce. I saw that same face in Diane Downs. He needed, now more than ever, to vacate the area asap. Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. This case flew under my radar so to speak because it happened before my time. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. If the media was anything at the time it was favorable towards her. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. Id like to challenge some of the bloggers claims. I mean if a guy admits to killing children over and over, shouldnt we pay attention to that? I think that you are right about certain things not being ignored. It is because she is a high profile person. And after Diane left Arizona she didnt call Knick to inquire about his love, but rather about when he would repay the $500 (Appendix 81, pages 1479-1480). This coercion came to Dianes attention in January 1989 (Appendix 39). Page 41 of case history. Is. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession: inflammatory She had one arm totally out of commission. When they assess the conduct of an inmate, what counts is mostly how she behaves inside through the years and if she shows violent tendencies. Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. I am sorry but I got to laugh a little. LMFAO!!!! In 1979, headstrong Diane gave birth to Danny who was not Stevens biological son because he had no desire to be a father again. Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm. Dr. Obrecht Learns if She's a Bone Marrow Match for Willow Plus, Nikolas' Whereabouts Are Revealed. The lawsuit against Ann Rule was thrown out as unfounded because after reading her book they could find no inconsistencies She sat thru the entire trial AND used actual court transcripts. I am not sure. I guess Diane forgot to have that part engraved on the Unicorn. I felt there was something that should be done, but I was at a loss in how to cope with the Court that had given the children to the prosecutor and allowed false testimony to seal her fate.
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