Seeking a good source for correct parts. In looking at your forum I noticed someone is looking to find what saws fit the Stanley 2358 mitre, there were two saws for this model one bigger, one smaller, the 2358 is for 28 X 5 saw as the 258 has a 26 X 4 saw, both saws were 9 point teeth, the difference is the 2358 has a bigger cut capacity than its brother the 258. Call 315-637-Seventeen Fortynine. Thank you so much. I'm wondering if one of these MBs would be good replacement for furniture work. NO bearings, friction fit plates. CL. Would anyone have a legible picture. And what is it worth the saw is in great condition the blade is26 measuring the teeth. User Details. Please note that all these models have been discontinued and we no longer have parts available. Enjoy your miter box.Bob, I have have a Stanley mitre box frame stanley #2358.looks to be a cast Iron with blue paint.missing saw (surprise)and a couple other pieces.I was hoping you might have a copy of a parts sheet so I know what I am missing as to other parts and well Idea as to restoration (not full on factory fresh).was also looking at what year this treasure is and your opinion of this model.please and thank youtim, Check a previous post of mine about mitre box, you will find the parts breakdown sheets for the 2358 and many others. Mitre Box Instruction Manual.pdf 2 MB Download 358. The picture doesnt show it, but most of the japanning had started to fall off as well. Now ,of course, if nothing else, it's good to look at. I assume this is cast iron? vintage Stanley model 358 miter box, saw vice, saw tooth setStanley Model 358 miter has been sitting for years and is covered in dust. It's a beauty, but I'm having trouble tuning it to cut square vertically, and calibrate the pivot so the angle is dead on. You can clearly see the different size of two frames types. But both saws, again from different sellers, how could that happen? 3 Size Mitre Miter Box w/ Original Disston Handsaw. Thanks for a great detailed post with lots of good info. Only 3 parts missing the two stock guides and the roller bearing on the left side of the front guide post. That was a superb restore Brendan. 358 Mitre Box.set it beside the latest one.relatives? It is a good model.Bob, Hi Bob, I read with great interest your article on the stanley mitre box family. I have two 2358s, one almost new with box, both from ebay.If you still have it let me know. Have quite a few parts for the Goodell Pratt "All Steel" boxes as well. 13TPI. I think production stopped shortly after I bought mine. So when I saw this at a local used tool store, I snatched it up. Articles, Bell & Howell Film Cameras Having a Resurgence. 150--it will also work with the Millers Falls series and other Stanley boxes. Stanley 358 Miter Box Popular Woodworking 248K subscribers Subscribe 26K views 4 years ago Restoration craftsman Ron Herman uses the tools from 50 to 100 years ago. This miter box has detents set for multiple sided geometries (4, 6, 8, 12) for fast and easy set up when cutting all manner of polygonal shapes. Metal Mitre Box by Excel Blades - Aluminium and Steel Construction - Made in the USA - 6 Inch Small Mitre Box - Metal Mitre Saw With 2 Cutting Angles - Ideal For Cutting Wood and Soft Metals 1,194 $1260 FREE delivery Sat, Feb 11 on $25 of items shipped by Amazon Small Business More Buying Choices $12.00 (9 new offers) Good job on that rehab, you didnt mention it on your blog entry but just make sure your replacement sacrificial board is not too thick or you wont be able to use the two screw points to lock the work piece in place. I believe this saw and miter box have always been a pair. Anyone have a link or maybe some idea when? This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. The steel rods were cut just tall enough to fit under the opening in the back while on top of the bars. The one i see most are Disstons. Thanks so much for you post. Unused Cast Iron Frame for Stanley No. My Disston, although in decent shape, has a good patina that I would like to take off. Vintage Henry Disston & Sons Philada ~Thumbhole D8 28" 5ppi Handsaw. 246 with Disston back saw from the user's son who is an old guy like me. Did a search and did not find information on . I have just acquired my G-Grandfathers Miter Box. You can see it here:https://offgrid-woodbutcher.blogspot.com/2019/02/vintage-tools-stanley-246-miter-box.html, Well hello my fellow Canadian woodbutcher :-) what you found in this condition is indeed a very lucky find, congrats! Stanley 2360 Metal Miter Box clamps 1939-1974 Cobalt Blue, VINTAGE LITINOV POKOSOV KRABIKA s pilou - neznm znaka, Stanley? For sale I have a Stanley/ Disston miter box/saw combination. Also some parts for the exceptionally sought over small boxes, like the Langdon No. Antique Stanley Miter Box Saw #358, early modle, complete w/ back saw. 358 Mitre Box Missing Trees But Great Condition Moves Smooth Pre-Owned C $94.74 ktinsley5150 (617) 99.3% Was: C $108.90 13% off or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Antique Stanley No. atlanta. Should there be an "A" at the end of that number? Stanley 358 Mitre Box Restoration Posted Saturday, May 14th, 2011 Here's my Stanley 358 Mitre box in the condition that I purchased it for a whopping $35. Tag on the No 2246. They used saws from Disston, Atkins and maybe Simonds. On this later No 346, they now used a simpler split cast part. Stanley used this stain's colour scheme for a very long time. Currently have approx 30 boxes, mostly complete, as well as a number of incomplete parts boxes. My email has changed - so I will have to repost. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. The 358A is listed from $250-$500. For example, 12 would mean 1 foot rise for each 12 feet of run. I also had to chamfer the back bottom edge of the board so it matched the iron frame. Stanley Rule & Level Co. The Davistown Museum. Collectors frown upon drastic restorations because it often obliterate small details of construction such as linished versus machined surface, removing small casting imperfections, original paint surface and etc.Lastly, i would tuned up that saw for the box, so it cut and track truefor that boxBob, Hi ScottYou are correct, the No 2, 3, 4 refer to the frame no of the box, because they all have different capacities. Will ship USPS parcel select. I used to use it all the time. Tools Back Saw for sale ,Antique 10 Inch Pearson Brass Backed Tenon Saw Open Handle - Etsy,www.AntiqBuyer.com Antique Back and Dovetail Saws Past Sales,Vintage Disston Saw & Mitre Box,VTG STANLEY NO. 2 Mitre Boxes, Vintage Stanley Mitre Saw Box No. It still has all original belt driven machinery used when they operated as the eagle square plant manufacturing carpenter squares. It has a 5" capacity and came with a 5" by 28" back saw. 2246. 358 Mitre Box Missing Trees But Great Condition Moves Smooth, Antique Stanley No. Thank for your sharing. Thanks so much. 3 frame, and vice versa. Vintage Stanley Handyman Mitre Box Stanley Tools H 114 Orig Box Euc, Antique Perfection 554 Miter Box With Saw Nice Stanley Miter Box, Vintage antique cast iron stanley miter box 50 1/2 carpenter saw sweethart, Vtg Stanley Miter Box H114 Handyman Mitre Box All Metal W/Original Box. Left Frame Leg & Screws for Stanley No. If your box has a plain "whitish board" it is probably a replacement. (10% off), Sale Price $33.30 The frame board wasnt missing but the one it came with was in pretty rough condition. It's exactly what I needed for my vintage 358, cause I'm a user not a collector . Can you clear this up for me? Olson Saw 35-241 Fine Kerf Saw 35-550 42 tpi with Aluminum Thin Slot Miter Box, Slot Size .014-Inch, Slot Angles 45, 60, 90, Cutting Depth 7/8-Inch, Fuller Tool 320-0217 Mitre Box with 14" Back Saw, DEWALT 20V MAX 7-1/4-Inch Miter Saw, Tool Only, Cordless (DCS361B), Zona 35-260 Aluminum Wide Slot Miter Box, Slot Size 031-Inch, Slot Angles 45, 90, Cutting Depth 3/4-Inch, Cutting Width 1-3/4-Inch, Length 5-1/2-Inch, Rousseau 5000 Dust Solution for Miter Saws, Silver, JOUNJIP Mini Miter Cut-Off Chop Saw for Hobby Miniature Model Making, Carbon Arrow Shafts, Zinc Stained Glass Came, 223/5.56 Brass - Cuts Max. Found one in my cleanup attempt the other day that reads TRU-TEST, J.L. I do not know, they just illustrated two sizes. The Stanley 22.5, 45, 60, 90 Miter Saw Miter Box & Saw 4-1/4" Box Width x 18-1/4" Box Length can be found within the Miter Boxes & Sets category. Refresh your browser window to try again. (http://lumberjocks.com/planepassion/blog/25362) I cataloged it and didnt think much of it at the time but the feedback I got suggested to me that a lot of woodworkers/restorers have to fashion parts for old tools. Hi KenFrom the earliest days, manufactured mitre boxes never shown angles on them, relying instead on a simple number which indicated if you want to make a 6 sided box, set it to 6 and etc. Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. For the bar, I cut it long enough to go all the way to edge of the frame which was around 8. Stanley mitre box No 358. And even if you still go to the shooting board, it will only require light clean up passes. Once upon a time I used to know how to use all this stuff, but then I moved out of my parents home and no longer had access to all my dads cool tools. Of the brand stanley A countryregion of manufacture united states as well as an originalreproduction equivalent to antique original Lexerd1 offers for sale in Usa Easton eBay Price: 150 $ Product condition: Used See details Check out these interesting ads related to "stanley miter box" 358 Miter Box with original Disston Saw Antique - $135 (Fayetteville). For a replacement I used some 1/4 thick oak scrap that I trimmed to size using the old one as a template. Are those called dallson son saws ? Very complete with . Again see the tooltrip site mentioned above for the recommended length. It is accurate with zero slop for the saw, but it wears quickly and deeper ones can be fussier to cut. Thanks RalphIm nursing a cold so got nothing but time on my hands :-)Now that the holidays are over, go away snow.Bob, dreaming of a whitebeach, Bob,As usual a good tutorial. I am sure you will easily find a buyer for a clean 2246. What you were refering to, should fit, i dont know for sure, but it would make sense. I have an older Stanley Mitre box, the numbers 12, 8, 6 and 5 appear on the scale. Hello, I have a stanley metal mitre box model #116. Maybe this post of yours will convince me to give it a try. Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. 2 Frame Henry Disston Stanley Mitre Box Saw, Stanley 2360 Metal Miter Box clamps 1939-1974 Cobalt Blue, Vintage STANLEY Cast Iron Miter Box No. Both hold downs are present. I buy, restore, resell, and collect mitre boxes, and their related parts. It was finished with two coats of boiled linseed oil. )hand saws a few weeks ago; Diston/Philly #5 and #8, and a Spear & Jackson. Both saws had the latch release on the back guide arm turned around, pointing toward the body of the miter so that the latch would not release when the saw back tilts against it turned the wrong direction the operator must manually release it. I see lots of tools of all sort re assembled wrong.Hope you see this Bob. Antique Stanley Miter Box Saw #358, early modle, complete w/ back saw. It is almost new condition including the original box. Your email address will not be published. I have a 2246, complete (I think) except for the length stop - but in the photos I have seen online (including in this blog post), I can't see how it would work, as the entire stop is shown mounted horizontally, below the level of the board being cut. - M.K. Has anyone had experience with this, or have a manual for it.? Interesting that I haven't ran across this discussion before. Hence No 2 would be shorther than no 3,4.Therefore a no 2 fitted in a type 3 box frame would work, but wont give you the full range.Good news is, not terribly difficult to make new onesHow long? The best antique Stanley miter box and matching backsaw.The saw is in excellent condition. Particular model differences? We would still like to fin a manual if you have suggestion. The two bars on the sides are just about the right sizes. Maybe I messed something up when putting the thing back. See Pats listing at the end of this entry. My finds this year Stanley 358 Miter Box _ Disston Saw, Carpenter and Joiner's Union Sign, Starret Rules and Dividers, Mini Framing Square, ECE Frame Saw, Heavy Duty Snatch Block, Auger Bit Handle. 358 No. 22 ??? Thanks Dave. I may cut them down a bit in the future because it seems a little too long. A simple round collar (red part) , such as used on the Nobex. On the other side was Don't overlook 16 features when you select a Miter Box.This poster is 17 inches long 7 inches wide on heavy cardboard also has Form No 265Would you know the age of this poster? We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. The length stop rods are just 5/16 steel rods as seen above sticking out of the side. I myself have an old Millers Falls cast iron miter box, but I bought it brand new, and even then (about 1979)it cost over $200. Watch out it is a slipery slope..:-)Bob, where Spring seems to have sprung?? Vintage Stanley Back Saw, Wood Saw. Call 402-432-8three83 vintage Stanley model 358 miter box, saw vice, saw tooth setStanley Model 358 miter has been sitting for years and is covered in dust. Dave, I still have the clean 2246, you seem like the type of person that would appreciate it. With those springs I cannot cut to full depth. I bought mine in 1972 ($100 Brand new with saw! 150 MITER BOX from circa 1923-1969 (as per John Walter's book "Antique & Collectible Stanley Tools.Guide to Identify & Value"), as seen in the pictures/as described in the title. Well according to what i wrote on this blog post :-) No 360 was made from 1905 until 1972.Bob, in day 5. I can confidently I then sanded with 220 and then abrasive pads. 240, 242, 244, 246, 346, 358, 460 Item Preview remove-circle Share or Embed This Item. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. For sale I have a Stanley/ Disston miter box/saw combination. 3 Frame Miter Box W/ Disston 28 Inch Saw Rare, 22" Stanley Miter Box Saw Made By Disston & Sons, Henry Disston Miter Box Saw For Stanley Miter Box SW Etch, Stanley # 358 Back (miter) Box With (Disston) Saw This Item Was Mfg 1904, Pat. Great info ! $150.00 + $55.00 shipping. The Stanley 11 in. maine > for sale > tools - by owner. The miter box only needs a couple of screws changed and a tie bar connecting the tops of the saw guides.Call 315-637-Seventeen Fortynine. 1905-1950 it had a 22X4 in backsawIf so, yours has been sharpen lot in its lifetimeBob. 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If this gets to you would you text me your answer 360 580 7823 Thank you Ed, Hello I have a model 60 with csx c2x stamped on it how can I find out exact year of manufacturing. It has 7 detent stops on either side of 90 degrees. I don't know how to japan something so I'll go with black paint. Not a thru cut, but a stopped cut. How they attach in the back on this No 244. Yeah, I don't wanna get rid of this either. For mine I decided to make my own and used a scrap piece of hardwood, some threaded screw inserts and thumb screws. 358, No. The miter box only needs a couple of screws to be replaced. I have three Stanley miter boxes ( 2246, 360 and 460) and would like to know if you have any data on when the degree markings on the 360 went from cast-in markings to become a printed aluminum plate riveted to the frame. BTW - the #100 mitre clamp barely visible to left of mitre box is the shade of blue Stanley used in mid-late 1960s. After all the paint was stripped I used a degreaser on all the parts. 358 Miter Box with 5x28 inch Dual Marked/Etch STANLEY/DISSTON Saw - 75862 $ 195.00 Item #: 75862 One of the BEST boxes ever made! I have the Stanley Tool Book guide to identity and value. Call 315-637-Seventeen Fortynine. The Pat.1952518 is present on the front guide post. induction hardened miter saw. Hello Jacobs familyYou will find a lots of the mitre box instructions for various models Stanley and MF on this previous blog I wrote https://thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com/2016/02/all-about-mitre-box-part-2-saws.htmlWithout knowing which model you have, cannot tell you more. That one comes with various TPI and types of tooth (IDEKA or Western) blades. I recently found a Model 2358 Mitre Box, without saw and missing the 3 of the 4 roller saw guides. E.X. Stanley 2358 and 358. United States. I used the leftovers to make stock guides below. Always glad to give credit where credit is due.I Apologize and thank you again.Bob, Just bought a 358! The saw vice is marked with a number 3, and appears to be complete. Last Name. As a minimum, i would cleaned it, remove and prevent further rust. The riveted label says it takes a 28 x 60.   United States   |   English (US)   |   $ (USD), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. The miter bos is a Stanley No. AU $262.09. No patents, no holes for attaching tag, mean its a newer one, had probably a sticker long goneHow does the etch look like in relation to the blade width?Centered or more toward the tooth line? Carpenter squares of good info privacy laws resell, and more, the! 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