http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurines Its obvious that Adam and Eve might have other children. Sometime in the beginning someone had to have sexual relations with his sister for pedigree sake. In the creation Report, that is not the case. No! Then Cain was kicked out of Eden. All land, materials, and biological (including human) resources became property of the state. Earlier I showed that the male and female of Genesis 1 were the Adam and Eve of Genesis 2-5. Asked October 21 2014 Genesis 4:16-17 does not say that Cain married his wife after leaving Eden. Our oldest mitochondrial relatives go back a minimum of 100,000 years and that is only the female. Candice Luceylives with her husband and daughters in (mostly) tranquil Salmon Arm, BC, Canada. There is also the fact God had to breathe life into the newly produced body of Adam (Gen. 2:7). Why dont people read Genesis 5:4 which reveals that Adam begat sons and daughters. Treasures. into the bible wont save the Christian faith, so let Cains wife descend from a preadamic tribe. Cain and Able probably were not young boys, especially since they labored and knew what God required with sacrifice. The fact that there are similar (not exactly the same) stories/versions of Mans origins around the world among primitive tribes today and before Christian missionaries arrived to teach them the Jewish one, shows that man had one origin. If we add some other group of people not descended from Adam and Eve, the entire story of the Tree of Knowledge and Tree of Life and the 7 day creation and Adams longing for a helpmeet which is then made from his side becomes nonsensical. Since Tishbys book is an anthology, he was careful to omit one detail of which I have been unable to find an English translation of: the intriguing reference to cannabis in the context of a fleeting comprehension of the knowledge of God (Zohar; The Book of Enlightenment, by Daniel Matt. Once again the Focus is on the naming of the entire mankind, in the first two verses. Has the book of Amos been fulfilled or is it a reference to end times? 1:5, where it descripts the arising of Jeremia. He exhorts his offspring When God created the human race (Gen. 1.27), the Garden didnt even exist. You originally claimed that the expulsion from Paradise referred to the transition from hunter-gatherers to agriculturalists, not that this was its first recording of agriculture in the Bible. HAS SHE NEVER READ THE hEBREW BIBLE? 3:19-20, 12:7). There is so much spiritual disrespect in Christianity. If you look at the naming of men, with different names, you may find a different way of she among men and women so that you can find. He would have had to. So, he was to take care of plant life for he and the animals. The story is a recording of an event that has significance to the life of the believer. Very simple: Gen. 5.4 says that the other sons and daughters of Adam have been born after seth. CAIN AND HIS DESCENDANTS. Indeed, it is in some peoples interests to emphasize the differences of other religions or sects rather than the similarities between them. This is backed up by other passages describing mans authority over the animal kingdom (Genesis 2:19-20, 4:2; Psalm 8:5-8). When Cain hears of his punishment, after the murder of Abel, he protests the severity, because God has moved him from the adama and anybody meeting him in the aretz will kill him (4:14). Therefore, Cain had no problem in finding a wife among the daughters of the aretz. XIV, 1, 7-9, In Rabbi Rashis commentary on Genesis, Bk, 1, he says that Adam and Eve are the same people as those in Genesis one. Youre adding and detracting from the Bible. Thats the actual meaning of ruling over the animals. It requires no mystery nor does it require incest. Yes, it's unfair that Cain, as a farmer, inherited his father's curse. Dr. Edoardo Shmuel Recanati. He did not exist. the reason Cain and Abel are written in there is because of the sin Cain committed, before the event of Cain killing his brother Abel, no man had ever taken a life. Greek scientists like Aristotle gave us the wrong motions. shed my blessing on them ere I die. If you want to resesrch you cannot exclude all other ancient texts. In that the failure of the son of God, Adam, all fell, through Jesus, the unfallen son of God we are redeemed. Perhaps this is where these genes came into ours. I hope that BAS will stop printing science fiction and start using people that read and believe the bible, not obscure theologians. They had a rocky relationship that culminated in a heated quarrel, which ended with Cain The Torah 's description of their life is brief and cryptic murdering his younger brother. Lilith, Interestingly, even evolutionists have been reducing the original population numbers, very significantly, over the last decade or so. This is also referred to in Jeremiah 5:22. The verse says nothing about cosmology or science or human origins but the verse does say it is profitable for what the bible indeed is profitable for which is in understanding the nature of God and our relationship to Him, our moral duties to one another and our means of obtaining right relationship to God. I usually run into those who try to claim that the Bible teaches and the ancient Jews believed in a flat earth. Thats why its important to read the Bible over and over, as you and your spirit mature, you will understand more. His wife was human. Cains wife is a curious subject but the the size of the animals on the ark are also. 3:20. 8 Cainan also grew up, married, and begat Mahalaleel. the rh factor stuff definitely proves there is an outsider element to the human gene pool. Was Cain even the first born? Adam and his offspring was a new creation. Genesis 25:22-26 says, "The babies jostled each other within her, and she . No, Cain was Adam's oldest son and Abel's brother (Genesis In Genesis one both male and female are singular in Hebrew. Here, she enjoys digging into Gods word when not working or taking part in ministry activities. There are two versions of Mans origin but they could well be just a different slant on the same event They do not contradict each other.. Read Genesis 1:26/7 and 2:7 again. Could it be that we are only thinking of the physical when it comes to the first family? No woman got the male name Adam. Of particular interest is the debate between Raah #14 and Kenny #16 over whether the Adam of Genesis 2:7 (Jehovah tradition, first temple period) and Adam of Genesis 1:26 and 5:1 (Priestly tradition, second temple period) are the same species of humanity. A figment of imagination. You start off with being a false teacher. Note that beginning in Chapter 2 it talks first of God resting from his creative works, then in verse 4 it says that these are the generations, or history, of the heavens and earth in the day that they were created and then it basically goes on to describe the creation Adam and how Eve was produced from Adams rib. The children grew up . Adam and Eve were right in the middle of it. Part of that pain and suffering includes disease and deformity. The story said nothing of Cain repenting for the murder of his brother, only that he felt his punishment was unjust. Who did Cain marry? His bloodline ended with the flood. If they dont have an answer they make one up. Chapter VIII. It did not say they [Cain & Abel] emerged from the womb and immediately went out and offered their sacrifices. The great majority of open questions that we have from ancient Biblical history were not open questions when they were written. The Bible did not say how the orbits worked. Without birth control there could have been hundreds of people alive when Abel was murdered. Yes they both were of multiple births. http://www.mnemotrix.com/metsudah/b01r.html, Rabbi Rashbams commentary agrees that Adam was the man of Genesis one. There could have been several children before or even after Cain and after Able even. if u feel u want to know more go learn bible histories. Stop spreading mis-/disinformation! (Job 38:8-11). The preadamic rulership over the earth isnt agriculture like in Gen. 2:15 Also: a very good question is that if the Adam and Eve story was entirely fictional, how did the person composing the original or at least the biblical version know that snakes used to walk on four legs? Spouse. Where did she come from? WHY DID MARY LEITH ASK SUCH A POINTLESS QUESTION WHEN THE ANSWER IS CLEARLY IN GENESIS 5; 3-4? that intercourse between such close relatives was specifically forbidden.Leviticus 18:9, 17, 24. 2. One thing that always puzzled me is how Cain got a wife? & verse 9 says, And Cain took wn his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. Cains wife was a descendent of Adam and Eve. Chapter 4:9 And Cain took Awan his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. 100,000 years ago, there were only preadamites. Report, October 22 2014 It is likely that Cain married a sister. Kabil and Habil Palestine Kabil and Habil, or Cain and Abel, with their two sisters, were the first children born to Adam and Eve. Thats right, so forget about all the creationistic crap about kosher genes and sibling incest and make friends with unholy preadamites, coadamites and wicked evolution (Gen. 2:4)! And since the family is central to Gods purposes and work on earth, his judgment on this practice is fierce as stated in the Christian Courier. Cain could have physically married another human being that had not received the breath of God. Its fascinating how opposing views collide, producing sparks like atoms smashing together in a particle accelerator, putting an end to darkness (Job 28:3). The Lord counsels Cain and warns him, but if you dont do right, sin is crouching at the door; its urge is toward you, yet you can be its master (Genesis 4:7). An example of the negative impact of incest can be found as early as Genesis 19 with Lots daughters. Her prose and poetry has previously appeared in such publications asPurposeandCreation Illustrated, and her short plays were performed at Christmas by Sunday School students for several years. Gen. 3:23 So the Lord God sent him from (min) the garden of Eden, to work the ground (adamah) that he had been taken (laqach) from (min). The Gulf has receded since then leaving Ur well inland. While there are many examples of strong and inspiring men and women in Genesis, the book is also packed with stories of dysfunctional families, which is evidenced from the very beginning with the first familyAdam, Eve and their two children, Cain and Abel. Report, October 28 2014 Lilith, VIII, pg. How would anyone know and be able to pass on an accurate description of what happened so many generations before there was a written word? However, I agree that Genesis tells the story of Hebrew history rather than of all humans. This is because today humans have lots of mistakesbecause of the cursein their genes. Instead of loving his Abel, he did the opposite and brutally murdered his brother. Anything could be true with regard to this question. raah, The Talmud has no exegetical authority as well. Him refers to one person, unless you have other Biblical passages which use the singular of et to refer to more than one person. First, the church, by and large, either has not given, or cannot give the answer to his question; Second, this question is obviously a problem to many Christians, and the fact that they cannot answer it, causes many, I believe, to doubt that they can defend the book of Genesis. But the writer of the bible did assume that we could figure out that there were more children born to Adam and Eve, that is why when the lifespan verse of the Christ lineage males always say (and they begat sons and daughters; and they died). Really people. He was supposed to have stayed young forever and not grow old and die. Let me go through these two aspects in some detail. So Cains story was just rounded off in Gen. 4. Besides, God did not give man the right to eat animals until after the flood (Genesis 9:2-4). Stay away from pastoring. According to this reasoning, Cain would have married his sisterone of Abel's twin sisters no less, according to the Genesis Rabbah. Again, why bother becoming a Pastor. Cain and Abel both wanted to marry the younger of. The ancient peoples would have understood the antagonisms that would have at times occured between settled farmers dwelling in cities and semi-nomadic herdsmen dwelling in camps; since prehistoric times. Moreover, the Hebrew grammar shows that all the living creatures represent categories, while Adam is one only of his kind, evidently because he is the only one to receive God breath (2:7). Unfortunately human species also became one among the fallen. The book of Genesis mentions three of Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel and Seth. They intermarry and even I have some HN in me. By this I believe that God wanted us to know that for every innocent blood shed, you must not From the bibles explanation, Cain knew his wife and had a son means that Cain slept with his wife and had a son. Cain was cast out and he went into the land of nod and there he took a wife I mean that is so clear in its meaning and inference most people can get it. Cain would have married a close relative. Source: Insider . We have to understand the account of people in the Bible. There was no suffering. The regulations of the Law of Moses were binding only upon those to whom it was given at the time, according to the Christian Courier. God Almighty always has a plan, however. I know Jewish sources are not the Word of God, but you said that old Hebrews would laugh at the idea of humans being made out of dust or mud. The story shows us that no matter how far we have fallen, how great our sin, God is still Jehovah Jireah.. Yes, I do believe Adam and Eve had more children. How did the spirit of God move upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2? The Adam and Eve Story: Eve Came From Where? This seems a strange thing to say given that the Old and New Testaments, as well as ancient Hebrew and Christian commentaries taught that our bodies will rise again from the dust. Him and them are both plural, him is just a formal singular. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/who-was-cains-wife. These same people mock the Faith of billions of people by pretending to be open minded. If you truly believe God made all then you should believe that we as humans have no place trying to improve his creations or trying to make a profit from creating things he cannot. CAN ANY HUMAN IMAGEN JEHOVAH GOD TO CONCLUSSION? Numbers arent called until Gen. 2-3, which tells from one man (isch) and one woman (ischah). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8117915.stm, Modern Culture Over 40,000 Yrs. If Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel, where did Cains wife come from? Although this is often asked as a trick question by Bible skeptics, the Bible does provide sufficient detail to give a satisfactory answer. so more argument we take it as it stated in the Bible. Photo: From Charles Foster, The Story of the Bible (1897). As far as population genetics ruling out just two original humans, there have been a number of studies on sheep, horses, etc. Here is the answer, Cain and Abel were not the first children of our first parents, that is Adam and Eve. Gen. 1:27 and 2:7 both content ha, but 2:7 uses it immediately, which implies that it isnt the ultimate arising of an new kind. If you read Genesis Chapter 1 verse 26 It says Let us make man in our image, after our likeness & have Dominion over..Etc. Apparently not if you read Adam & Eve Only Once available on Amazon based on biblical evidence it now seems there is completely new way of looking at the Book Of Genesis: It is proposed in the series of pamphlets that make up this book (there are eight in all) that the special manner in which God created Eve from the side of Adam (as described in chapter two of the Book of Genesis) continued for a number of other blessed couples up to the time of Abraham, at which time it ended. 10 Then were the days of Adam nine hundred and thirty years, and those of People please STOP. They ultimately had twins and triplets five kids in total. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=Cain&p=par, Your email address will not be published. These mistakes (harmful mutations) add up only after a long period of time. Cain married his own (younger) sister! Recent archaeological and genetic evidence reveals that interbreeding between genetic humans and neanderthals probably began to occur as recently as 50,000BC. In the book of Jubilees, chapter4, verse 1 & 9, (it tells us that Cain married his sister, wn bint Adam); verse 1 says And in the third week in the second jubilee [64-70 A.M.] she gave birth to Cain, and in the fourth [71-77 A.M.] she gave birth to Abel, and in the fifth [78-84 A.M.] she gave birth to her daughter wn. The All-Access membership pass is the way to get to know the Bible through biblical archaeology. go unpunished. Gen 1 vs 26 down has made it knwn that humans were there before adam jst that he (God) wanted to point out that he want the best out of adams family wch is us, and he created adam after seventh days people should read their bible well before commenting. Man didnt write the bible, God did, cain married one of his sisters, dont yall understand anything! This is strictly the history of the Jew. Has anyone considered that when it is said that Adam sought for a help meet among the animals, he may have gone into animals. (Mark 6:20). Did you read the quotes from Jesus (God in the flesh)? Problem solved. The view of the early church was that the earth was a sphere. It literally says they had other sons and daughters, it literally says Cain married and had children. The bible says that God created man and women outside of the garden. No, Abel was killed by his brother, Cain. Im only using Jewish sources. The answer is however very simple. The fact that Adam and Eve were driven out of the garden is recorded because that story shows us what happens when we desire to have the things God has forbidden. Adam and Eve surely had given birth to more children than just Cain and Abel at the time Abel was killed. So, Cain married either one of his sisters or one of his nieces, but the word "twin" is not written in Genesis 4:17--24. (ref: Noahs period). o and if you are going to believe in God and the Bible you cannot go and find your white-out and remove the bits you dont like.., it is in there for a reason and it is all true, not just bits and peices. That is the context. So, there is no indication of people beyond his family. Now that said, I am more interested in what my creator took from Adam and made Eve his soulmate. So the serpent came crawling because the angels free will was tested first. Gen. 2:7 formed the man OF dust (aphar) from (min) the ground (adamah). The pre-flood earth atmosphere shielded better against cosmic radiation permitting less genetic erosion and much longer lives. Radio carbon studies can tell alot also. Read your Bible again). In the Sumerian poem Lugalbanda and the Mountain cave, the hero, Lugalbanda, is acompanying his seven brothers on a military comapain against Aratta ,the mountain of the holy divine powers. While his brothers are noblemen who command troops, Lugalbanda is a virtual nobody who is introduced only as their eighth one. But like David in 1 Samuel 17, he would prevail over his brothers and become king of Unug (Uruk). Getting back to the original article, the tradition is that Cain married Abels twin sister, as commanded by Adam. He built brand new creatures (being both physical and spiritual) of the dust from the earth and a rib, and shaped them into the human form. Anyway its much more complicated than this, but these are the basics as to what my studies have found, while studying under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Why? Than seth had kids with azura. ). Zakar & neqebah are generic terms. She is portrayed as a bratty, snarky and cynical 9-year-old who fights with Sheldon for attention from their parents. What abt Neanderthal genes among our own Sapien Sapien genes? This goes to the heart of some of the misunderstandings about who Adam and his line was. 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