Lisa:So is The Pioneer Fund involved with Murray and The Bell Curve? Innate Themecomposed by Jonathan Pfeffer. But if you want to go complain to your Dean, you go ahead. Episode 2 from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. She says that this is something anthropologists have been saying for years, that the category of race itself wasn't a real scientific category but race scientists weren't ready to let it go. Lisa:What is this, Wheel of Fortune? Then I, I trust you believe there are others. That's the question is, uh, who is funding Philippe Rushton? The ideology, the quote, unquote, "scientific support for racial hierarchy," This stuff is getting mainstreamed in the 1990s, isn't it? This was everywhere, [laughs] uh, while I was growing up. It's giving these ideas air, right? Barry:The word pioneer has a real meaning to these people. Rigo:Something that a lot of people don't know is that the Nazis got the ideas about eugenics from the United States. Rigo:No. It gets stranger. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, Read allThe precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. I did the math, and it would be like, something like 160 million in today's money, so when I say his family was wealthy, I meant it, like their ancestral home was a castle in Scotland. Lisa:I appreciate how clearly Barry Mehler gets to the heart of the issue. Rigo:That was Angela Saini, the author of the bookSuperior: The Return of Race Science. He explains how his journey took him from announcing television news at KYW in Cleveland, Ohio, to working in a bank in Albuquerque, New Mexico, to directing radio news in Adrian, Michigan. You know, he's really surprised. Bill:And this was the first instance of what became Draper's trademark, um, maneuver throughout the rest of his life. additions to the collection, news, and events. He is an actor and producer, known for Body of War (2007), Donahue (1967) and The Bold and the Beautiful (1987). I mean at the time it was released, The Bell Curve, I, I know was widely discredited by a lot of mainstream scientists. If you were less than one quarter Jewish then you could be considered, uh, to be Aryan, which was much more lenient than the one drop rule in the United States. Every place I went for a scientist, uh, or a- an activist who had been involved in these issues, there was connections between them and Draper and Pioneer. Rigo:William Shockley didn't try to hide his connection to The Thunderbolt. Barry Mehler on Donohue:He's got a study that compares Nigerian medical. Rigo:And there's more. They made a lot of anonymous donations, or passed the money through foundations and non profits. Rigo:So just to give you an update on what Mehler's been up to recently, I asked him about some hot water he got into, and I'll play you some tape. There's two things that were going on. Donohue:if you're going to present a thesis, which places uh, places are race at the bottom of the IQ. There are no reviews yet. There's like, an intellectual continuity, so that theory Mehler had as a 13 year old boy, that the Nazis didn't just suddenly disappear, he was right. So, method one is fund scientists who agree with their eugenics world view. The Bell Curve was one of The Pioneer Fund's greatest hits for two reasons. The Special Collections Department collects and preserves rare and unique materials including rare books, oral histories, university archives, historical manuscripts, maps, microfilm, photographs, art and artifacts. Phil Donahue on his favorite guests over the years, Phil Donahue on not believing in censorship, Phil Donahue on being the first television program to feature male strippers, On his early years and influences; on beginning his career in journalism at a South Bend, Indiana television station, On his first job as a radio news director and the state of electronic journalism in the 1950s and early 1960s, On his marriage and family life; on the Women's Movement, On his recollections of World War II; on pondering racism, sexism and stereotypes; on the Vietnam War, On getting his first show and national exposure on, On his call in talk-radio show "Conversation Piece" and transitioning to television, On the staff of his show and the controversial topics covered; on how his talk show made him ponder religion; on his first marriage; on celebrity, On some of the controversial/confrontational guests - including Jerry Rubin of the Chicago Seven - and special telecasts of, On some of the controversial guests on his talk show: white supremacist David Duke and Nazi leader Albert Speer; on interviewing future wife Marlo Thomas, On writing the book "Donahue: My Own Story" and on producing the book "The Human Animal" - the latter in conjunction with a television project for NBC; on the emergence of color television; on fellow talk show hosts Sally Jessy Raphael and Oprah Winfrey, On the talk show genre and how it changed over the years, On retirement and pushing for televising executions, Phil Donahue on getting his first national exposure on. Title of Larger Work The Phil Donahue Show Collection Title Collected Works of Milton Friedman Project records Guest Friedman, Milton (1912-2006) Host Donahue, Phil Publication Type(s) Interviews & TV Appearances. Rigo:Yeah. In 1967, Phil Donahue left his positions as news reporter and interviewer at WHIO radio and television in Dayton and became the host of a new television program, Phil Donahue Show on WLWD (now WDTN), also in Dayton. His new program replaced The Johnny Gilbert Show, when Gilbert left on short notice for Los Angeles for a hosting job. Episode 4from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. Barry:This kind of propaganda, and this kind of advocacy goes on for some time. He stumbles his way into Harvard but he has very mediocre grades, and he eventually joins the Army, where he works his way up to the rank of Colonel. You know? Rigo:Exactly. Stuff was pouring off the presses from him. So, what it suggested was that Draper and Pioneer really took the initiative in every case, and reached out to these people, and tried to subsidize them once it realized that these were people who were doing things that would be of interest to Pioneer's agenda. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Angela:If, you know, the basis of the study of human difference for a couple of hundred years has been that race is real, you don't let go of it overnight, and so of course they didn't let go of it, uh Of it overnight. He had a much more prestigious position than, than I had. Distillations Podcast | February 21, 2023, innate_podart_900x600x300_episode6_bg.jpeg, Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race, National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom, The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fund, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fund, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Today, The High-Flying, Death-Defying Discovery of Helium. Hosts: Alexis Pedrick and Elisabeth Berry Drago How did people receive this? American media personality Phil Donahue is famous for pioneering and hosting "The Phil Donahue Show," later known as "Donahue." Rigo:No one has proven that these threats came from The Pioneer Fund, but what we do know is that The Pioneer Fund actually hired a private investigation firm. Here's $1,000." Bill:Usually people wanting their research to be funded take the initiative to contact funding agency and say, "Hey, look. Innateis made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom. Now, while the video, the language in that video is profane. He doesn't actually stay to fight the war with the Nazis, but he brags about his military tourism. I went to the police about the swastika on the mailbox and they said, "Yeah, you know, that's just kids, you know, and look, they didn't even do it right. Rigo:So method three was the most important and consistent. Barry:What I noticed immediately was how important these academics were. Their goal was just to have a platform for their ideas to live on. So this is essentially what Arthur Jensen is arguing, you know, why serve breakfast to school kids if it's not going to improve their performance? Barry:One day walking on the street, it was a beautiful spring day, and I was daydreaming, and unbeknownst to me, two boys run up behind me, and one of them just punched me in the back, sent me flying, you know, stars, and, you know, and then, then they run on. He teaches at a college no one's heard of, and he's on a Donahue to debate Rushton. Rigo:So instead of going to the police, Barry asked his friends who used to be Marines to come live in his house with their guns and their 125 pound rottweiler. Barry:I've had a sense of urgency that goes back a very, very long time. All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy. Americans were getting spooked by what they saw in Germany. Rigo:Yeah. Respectable scientists and academics were promoting these ideas, which is why Draper starts making friends in high up places in the eugenics world, and he kind of finds an ideological soulmate in a man named Harry Laughlin. Rigo:Exactly. Barry:It was apparent to me that we were putting on a show, and that I was part of this show, and I was performing a- an important task for the racist platform because they couldn't do it without me. And in one of the books that he was writing, he devoted an entire chapter to Barry Mehler. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. The Bell Curve was The Pioneer Fund's biggest win when it was published in 1994. James Moll conducted the interview on May 9, 2001 in New York, NY. Some are big name academics at big name universities. This is so bizarre that nobody will ever be able to take this guy seriously.". Archival of Shockley:My research leads me inescapably to the opinion that the major cause of the American Negro's intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin. Used with permission. He fired almost all of the current faculty, and made openings for other neo Nazi scientists. WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who He really started to feel their wrath. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. This becomes very clear when you start looking into the citations of the book. That is, until Barry Mehler starts connecting the dots. web pages There's a load of absolute rubish. Lisa:Oh, this is another opportunity for me to go Wickliffe Preston Draper, isn't it? This We're not making progress here. Donahue's guests are two middle aged men who could really pass as accountants. And the second reason why The Bell Curve is so important to The Pioneer Fund is that it had staying power. After he lost a key New York outlet and KNBC-TV Channel 4 in Los Angeles announced it would not be renewing the show, he decided to quit rather than be canceled. One were actual scientists working on projects that Pioneer though w- would have results that could be exploited for their political agenda. It brought together two different groups, those American scientists who were opposed to the civil rights movement, and who wanted to emphasize the inferiority of Blacks, and European scientists who were still promoting the kind of racial hygiene that had been at the core of the policies instituted by the Third Reich. I mean, it sort of falls under the category of yikes. McNeil/Leher Report:What has landed the bell curve on the cover of many magazines and Charles Murray on numerous talk shows is that the book also links IQ with race on Mary's bell curve of IQ scores, blacks as a group have an average IQ of 85 whites, 100 Asians, 105. Hagley Library is engaged in ongoing efforts to address and responsibly present evidence of oppression and injustice in our collections. Lisa:I have no sympathy, Rigo, let's keep going. So Draper he's very proud of that. Have you ever heard of Arthur Jensen? Well, the idea of eugenics is basically a belief that the human race could or should be quote, unquote, "improved" by selective breeding. If a white supremacist wanted to discredit what you have to say, they, they might say, "Barry Mehler is a unreliable narrator because look at what happened." It's almost like, uh Like a racist Santa Claus. Web10 A.M., Phil Donahue, CH.5 Biographical Sketch of Ari Kane Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. I can't imagine how Barry Mehler feels watching this all explode and then kind of die down and become less controversial again. The collections and research newsletter brings you the latest on our acquisitions, library events, and programs. But with the emergence of Shockley, they had a mainstream scientist on their team now, and they funded him lavishly from the quote, unquote, "Throne in New York" As they called Wickliffe Draper's house. Donahue discusses the many controversial topics and guests featured on the show over the years - including White Supremacist David Duke - and details his activities following the final taping of Donahue. It was very important for them to be able to find a place where they would be appreciated. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. He is among the most influential talk show hosts whose fans have nicknamed king of daytime talk.He was in 1996 ranked #42 on TV Guides 50 Greatest TV Stars of All Time. WebDescription: Talk show host of the 1980s. The opposite, in fact. High quality topics, the wisdom of his years, masterful tactics in eliciting answers from guests and audience, crafty spontaneous, and at times - well timed pertinent flow of questions and inquiries, not self-opinionated, all these qualities that present talk-show hosts don't seem to have. Wh- why is there all this hatred? After 29 years, (26 of which in syndication) and nearly 7,000 shows, the final episode aired on September 13, 1996. In 2002, Donahue was ranked 29th on TV Guide magazine's list of the 50 greatest television shows of all-time. [7] ^ Heldenfels, Rich (2019-01-09). Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:This is the thing Dr. Mehler and all my opponents don't have to answer the intellectual argument.All they have to do is start throwing words around like Nazi and racist and fascist. Additional musicbyBlue Dot Sessions. Is it still around? By downloading this file you agree to our access conditions and use restrictions. By being the first and most vocal critical of The Pioneer Fund and neo Nazis, it made him a target. Lisa:All pretty common accusations that anyone who is coming against neo Nazis, even today. He originally thought any difference in intelligence Black and white people were from environmental factors, but after working with Shockley, Jensen started arguing that intelligence was inherited. Barry:And he puts this thing together which immediately is picked up by the American racist right, and the networking is incredible. Lisa:That blows right past yikes into holy crap territory. Lisa:So really what The Pioneer Fund is doing is making bad ideas even worse. Phillip John Donahue (born December 21, 1935) is an American media personality, writer, film producer, and the creator and host of The Phil Donahue Show. His television program, later known as Donahue, was the first talk show format that included audience participation. The show had a 29-year run on national television in America Barry:Jensen and Shockley were stars, were, were Pioneer stars, and they received huge amounts of money from The Pioneer Fund. The Science History Institute is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the U.S. under EIN: 22-2817365. The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fundby Paul Lombardo, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fundby William Tucker, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Todayby Barry Mehler, Superior: The Return of Race Scienceby Angela Saini. You know, for God's sakes, we're feeding them breakfast. These ideas just stay in the public consciousness, they don't go away again, and all the work that he did to expose it doesn't really make it stop. Rigo:They're successful in keeping their names out of the press, and no one ties the race science they fund to them. This is why Barry Mehler was so adamant that white supremacy was such a serious problem. It was the first talk show that included audience participation and ran for 29 years on national TV. First, I believe it is not hypocritical, though it does sometimes express erroneous views. You know, the only thing I had was the fact that I was able to articulate a context, and a vision that nobody else really had. Lisa:So, and this is really just personal curiosity, what about Barry Mehler? He seemed to be enamored of his Army experience, and that was his primary identification all his life, especially since he never really had a job of any sort. He left most of his money to The Pioneer Fund, much to the chagrin of his close family, and The Pioneer Fund handed out more money two years after his death than in the entire period of 1937 to 1972. He knew exactly what they were up to. So he's not just in academic conferences with Nazis, he's also quite literally on the battlefield with them. All together, he received about a million dollars. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Here's money for you. Lisa:So it strikes me as we're watching this footage of the Phil Donahue Show that the audience is not responding the way Rushton would like them to, I think. Rigo:Right. What's it gonna be? That's how I felt. WebIn his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. 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Phil Donahue, in full Phillip John Donahue, (born December 21, 1935, Cleveland, Ohio, U.S.), American journalist and television personality who pioneered the daytime issue-oriented TV talk show. Despite what most people would agree were really problematic endeavors, Pearson did not have trouble finding a job in academia. And thus not remediable to major degrees by practical improvements in the environment. WebPhil Donahue was born on December 21, 1935 in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. It was as if one person had finally realized what was going on, and he was sending out the warning signal. He and I were both reading The Thunderbolt, right? Lisa:Yeah. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Ironically, the Third Reich thought that this was too extreme for them, and so they didn't use the one drop of Jewish blood made you Jewish. The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. 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